Comments on: How We Rate Wines (and Other Things) http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/ An American Winegeek in London Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:51:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: time buyer grants ventura hbap program home first http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-58590 time buyer grants ventura hbap program home first Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:58:27 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-58590 home first buyer grants program time ventura hbap <a href="http://www.disturbed1.com/users/venturafirsttimehomebuyergrantsprogramhbap" rel="nofollow">buyer ventura home first time grants hbap program</a> home first buyer grants program time ventura hbap buyer ventura home first time grants hbap program

]]> By: Lisa http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-3698 Lisa Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:39:40 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-3698 liked your view on judging and rating systems.Our noses, mouths, and brains are not laboratory instruments.I prefer a star system as it doesn’t pretend to be accurate Lisa lisa@thegreatestvitaminintheworld.com www.thegreatestvitaminintheworld.com liked your view on judging and rating systems.Our noses, mouths, and brains are not laboratory instruments.I prefer a star system as it doesn’t pretend to be accurate

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]]> By: Sandy Ward http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-1025 Sandy Ward Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:14:19 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-1025 Is there any site used for rating wine lists? I have been getting a list of questions from people on my site so I built, a <a href="http://www.bringmywine.ca/creating-wine-list.html" rel="nofollow">wine list</a> section. After reading this, I want to find somewhere to ranking wine lists! :D Is there any site used for rating wine lists? I have been getting a list of questions from people on my site so I built, a wine list section. After reading this, I want to find somewhere to ranking wine lists! :D

]]> By: Eric S. Crane http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-936 Eric S. Crane Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:59:40 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-936 Steve, When are you going to introduce the term "naff" to your scale. I like the use of it in the German Australian article. Eric Steve,
When are you going to introduce the term “naff” to your scale. I like the use of it in the German Australian article.
Eric

]]> By: Steve De Long http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-485 Steve De Long Tue, 23 May 2006 08:27:29 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-485 Hi Eric, Thanks for that -- a very practical system! Hi Eric,
Thanks for that — a very practical system!

]]> By: Eric S. Crane http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-464 Eric S. Crane Mon, 22 May 2006 16:10:51 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-464 Bo Barrett, the winemaker for Chateau Montelena, has these three classifications: 1. Wines he would buy and drink. 2. Wines he would drink if someone else bought them. 3. Wines he would not drink regardless of someone elso buying them. Burgundy was great. Bo Barrett, the winemaker for Chateau Montelena, has these three classifications:
1. Wines he would buy and drink.
2. Wines he would drink if someone else bought them.
3. Wines he would not drink regardless of someone elso buying them.

Burgundy was great.

]]> By: Steve De Long http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-378 Steve De Long Fri, 19 May 2006 13:26:20 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-378 Hi Jeff, is your smilie sticking up its nose? It appears that way but I can't tell. I do, however, know exactly what an 89 means and that is 4 stars ;) Hi Jeff, is your smilie sticking up its nose? It appears that way but I can’t tell. I do, however, know exactly what an 89 means and that is 4 stars ;)

]]> By: Jeff Grossman http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-353 Jeff Grossman Thu, 18 May 2006 16:56:59 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-353 Steve, People love ratings because they provide a simple way to deal with a very complicated topic. It isn't easy to convey in words how something tastes, nor is it easy to explain to everyone why you judge a wine to be 'a certain way' and how that correlates with their own experience. On the other hand, you tell me "89" and, by gumbo, I know just what that means! :^) Steve,

People love ratings because they provide a simple way to deal with a very complicated topic. It isn’t easy to convey in words how something tastes, nor is it easy to explain to everyone why you judge a wine to be ‘a certain way’ and how that correlates with their own experience.

On the other hand, you tell me “89″ and, by gumbo, I know just what that means! :^)

]]> By: Steve De Long http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Steve De Long Wed, 17 May 2006 10:38:19 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-322 Thanks, Eric. It's strange how many people in the financial world - who are major consumers of expensive wines - get seriously caught up in the ratings. Especially since they know the dubiousness of ratings in their own field. It's really a conveinent fiction most that people buy into even if it's not healthy to their wallet. The big reviewers aren't blind to this fact either (just listen to Suckling in Mondovino!) That's exactly why I would prefer it if more people would adopt less precise systems to help devalue the currency of the 100 pointers. Thanks, Eric.

It’s strange how many people in the financial world – who are major consumers of expensive wines – get seriously caught up in the ratings. Especially since they know the dubiousness of ratings in their own field. It’s really a conveinent fiction most that people buy into even if it’s not healthy to their wallet. The big reviewers aren’t blind to this fact either (just listen to Suckling in Mondovino!) That’s exactly why I would prefer it if more people would adopt less precise systems to help devalue the currency of the 100 pointers.

]]> By: Eric Lecours http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/comment-page-1/#comment-304 Eric Lecours Tue, 16 May 2006 17:29:34 +0000 http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/05/09/how-we-rate-wines-and-other-things/#comment-304 Steve, You've really developed a lot of traffic and interest here. Congratulations! Ratings are of so much interest because of their effect on producers, markets and consumers. The turnover and availability of a $ 45 New World Pinot Noir will vary greatly on whether it receives an 89 or a 92. Yet there are only three points between the scores. That is the effect of the 100 point scale. Minute differences in scores move the market, increasing/decreasing price and availability. High scores are critical to financial success for wine producers. Thus the entire wine world from the vine to bottle has modified their practices to garner better scores. When we talk about systems based on stars, etc. basically we are suggesting systems that are less precise and will thus have less of a dramatic impact on the market either way. My guess is that most of us have gotten caught up in the hype of scores at one time or another and have regretted it. When we talk about scoring systems I think we need to be honest and admit that more than having a philosophical discussion we are really having a political and economic one that affects us personally as wine consumers. Steve,

You’ve really developed a lot of traffic and interest here. Congratulations!

Ratings are of so much interest because of their effect on producers, markets and consumers. The turnover and availability of a $ 45 New World Pinot Noir will vary greatly on whether it receives an 89 or a 92. Yet there are only three points between the scores. That is the effect of the 100 point scale. Minute differences in scores move the market, increasing/decreasing price and availability. High scores are critical to financial success for wine producers. Thus the entire wine world from the vine to bottle has modified their practices to garner better scores. When we talk about systems based on stars, etc. basically we are suggesting systems that are less precise and will thus have less of a dramatic impact on the market either way.

My guess is that most of us have gotten caught up in the hype of scores at one time or another and have regretted it. When we talk about scoring systems I think we need to be honest and admit that more than having a philosophical discussion we are really having a political and economic one that affects us personally as wine consumers.

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