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		<title>By: bubbly bride &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chicago is Breaking out the Bubbly!</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubbly bride &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chicago is Breaking out the Bubbly!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Deirdre Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/12/15/grower-champagne/comment-page-1/#comment-61137</link>
		<dc:creator>Deirdre Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look for them there are some really small Champagne Houses marked RM, their output is so small that the jus they use for their champagne is Reserve class. They sell any of their excess to larger houses. I find these types of family set ups have a really high level of quality, and because they are mini in size they get to put the maximum of effort in each bottle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look for them there are some really small Champagne Houses marked RM, their output is so small that the jus they use for their champagne is Reserve class. They sell any of their excess to larger houses. I find these types of family set ups have a really high level of quality, and because they are mini in size they get to put the maximum of effort in each bottle.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve De Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve De Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jameson, thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks for the plug Wine for Newbies!

Good point, doc.  The &quot;RM&quot; does insure that the wine is definitiely a Grower Champagne, however just as Dee suggested above it doesn&#039;t always tell the whole story.  There are growers who buy grapes for their standard cuvees such as Drapier, but everything else they produce is from their own grapes.  Since the designation is for the entire producer and not for each wine, they have &quot;NM&quot; which is the same designation as the giant houses like Moet.  It always seems to happen that good intentioned labeling laws somehow get muddled and drift away from making things clearer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jameson, thanks for the suggestion.</p>
<p>Thanks for the plug Wine for Newbies!</p>
<p>Good point, doc.  The &#8220;RM&#8221; does insure that the wine is definitiely a Grower Champagne, however just as Dee suggested above it doesn&#8217;t always tell the whole story.  There are growers who buy grapes for their standard cuvees such as Drapier, but everything else they produce is from their own grapes.  Since the designation is for the entire producer and not for each wine, they have &#8220;NM&#8221; which is the same designation as the giant houses like Moet.  It always seems to happen that good intentioned labeling laws somehow get muddled and drift away from making things clearer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended a recent lunch with the inimitable (to reuse the word) Terry Theise. He gave us a tip for telling if a wine is from a grower or not: a microscopic &quot;RM&quot; on the front label means that no more than 5% of the grapes can come from other than the grower. Thus that is the guarantee of grower champers. 

The makers of microbrew beers in the US would no doubt love to have such a truth claim on the label to differentiate themselves at a glance from &quot;craft beers&quot; produced by Anhueser-Busch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended a recent lunch with the inimitable (to reuse the word) Terry Theise. He gave us a tip for telling if a wine is from a grower or not: a microscopic &#8220;RM&#8221; on the front label means that no more than 5% of the grapes can come from other than the grower. Thus that is the guarantee of grower champers. </p>
<p>The makers of microbrew beers in the US would no doubt love to have such a truth claim on the label to differentiate themselves at a glance from &#8220;craft beers&#8221; produced by Anhueser-Busch.</p>
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		<title>By: Podcast: Wine for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great Champagne article</title>
		<link>http://www.delongwine.com/news/2006/12/15/grower-champagne/comment-page-1/#comment-4481</link>
		<dc:creator>Podcast: Wine for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great Champagne article</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check it out. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jameson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jameson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont forget the wonderful wines from Agrapart et Fils. I find them bright, refreshing and great with just about any fare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont forget the wonderful wines from Agrapart et Fils. I find them bright, refreshing and great with just about any fare.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve De Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve De Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gertrude, Thanks for the note.

Excellent comments, Vee.  

The reason I included Moet Brut Imperial was for contrast, to illustrate the point.  It definitely isn&#039;t Grower Champagne.  Imperial here in the UK is the entry level cuvee from Moet just like White Star in the USA. It may be a little sweeter but otherwise probably extremely difficult to discern a difference. These are million bottle ++ champagnes made for consistancy. Thanks for pointing out the confusion - I&#039;ve added some titles to help make it more clear.

It&#039;s sad to hear that Grower Champagne is becoming a catch phrase, but that&#039;s how things tend to go. Just like anything in the wine world it pays to look at things on a producer by producer level - Charles Ellner is an excellent example.  I just hope some of the worst bulk Champagne negociants don&#039;t start touting their no-name plonk as grower champagne.  They make the entry level Moets and the Clicquots seem like Krug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gertrude, Thanks for the note.</p>
<p>Excellent comments, Vee.  </p>
<p>The reason I included Moet Brut Imperial was for contrast, to illustrate the point.  It definitely isn&#8217;t Grower Champagne.  Imperial here in the UK is the entry level cuvee from Moet just like White Star in the USA. It may be a little sweeter but otherwise probably extremely difficult to discern a difference. These are million bottle ++ champagnes made for consistancy. Thanks for pointing out the confusion &#8211; I&#8217;ve added some titles to help make it more clear.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad to hear that Grower Champagne is becoming a catch phrase, but that&#8217;s how things tend to go. Just like anything in the wine world it pays to look at things on a producer by producer level &#8211; Charles Ellner is an excellent example.  I just hope some of the worst bulk Champagne negociants don&#8217;t start touting their no-name plonk as grower champagne.  They make the entry level Moets and the Clicquots seem like Krug.</p>
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		<title>By: Vee Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vee Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the growers, my favorite producers are Diebolt Valois, who&#039;s champagnes are very reasonable, from around $30 for it&#039;s NV Brut &quot;Tradition&quot; to $50 for it&#039;s tete de cuvee, the Prestige Blanc de Blanc.  I also love Pierre Peters&#039; Blanc de Blanc, and the very intruiging Nombre d&#039;Or from Aubry. 

I find it odd you chose to mention Moet&#039;s Brut Imperial in tasting notes for two reasons.  One, the most obvious, is that I didn&#039;t realize that this was considered grower champagne.  Two, to my knowledge, that wine is no longer sold on US shores.  

One more comment:  &quot;Grower champagne&quot;, like organic, is in the process of becoming a catch phrase that is in danger of losing it&#039;s true meaning at some point.  Actually, there are some producers who don&#039;t grow as much as 95% of their requirement themselves, so can&#039;t be classed as grower champagnes, but they are very selective with the growers they work with and so their champagnes are artisanal just the same.  My favorite example is Charles Ellner, imported by Willette Wines in New York.  

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the growers, my favorite producers are Diebolt Valois, who&#8217;s champagnes are very reasonable, from around $30 for it&#8217;s NV Brut &#8220;Tradition&#8221; to $50 for it&#8217;s tete de cuvee, the Prestige Blanc de Blanc.  I also love Pierre Peters&#8217; Blanc de Blanc, and the very intruiging Nombre d&#8217;Or from Aubry. </p>
<p>I find it odd you chose to mention Moet&#8217;s Brut Imperial in tasting notes for two reasons.  One, the most obvious, is that I didn&#8217;t realize that this was considered grower champagne.  Two, to my knowledge, that wine is no longer sold on US shores.  </p>
<p>One more comment:  &#8220;Grower champagne&#8221;, like organic, is in the process of becoming a catch phrase that is in danger of losing it&#8217;s true meaning at some point.  Actually, there are some producers who don&#8217;t grow as much as 95% of their requirement themselves, so can&#8217;t be classed as grower champagnes, but they are very selective with the growers they work with and so their champagnes are artisanal just the same.  My favorite example is Charles Ellner, imported by Willette Wines in New York.  </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Gertrude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gertrude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Champagne used to be my favourite tipple but too many weddings and toasts put me off for a while, however I have recently begun to enjoy it again through tasting a wider variety, in particular gems like the Barnaut Blanc de Noirs which is extremely agreeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Champagne used to be my favourite tipple but too many weddings and toasts put me off for a while, however I have recently begun to enjoy it again through tasting a wider variety, in particular gems like the Barnaut Blanc de Noirs which is extremely agreeable.</p>
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